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		<title>By: 1 man&#39;s opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>1 man&#39;s opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 thoughts: A) Engage experienced managers who are out of work or looking to finally start a venture they&#039;ve had in mind - this is a missed opportunity and there is too much emphasis on students in this post B) the universities, newly minted incubators and support groups appear to be competing and disparate - there needs to be a cross-pollinating glue that informally binds their members and this may be as simple as a common watering hole where entrepreneurs make a conscious effort to hang out somewhere in mid-Cambridge and not on a campus or in an existing incubator, call it the space bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 thoughts: A) Engage experienced managers who are out of work or looking to finally start a venture they&#39;ve had in mind &#8211; this is a missed opportunity and there is too much emphasis on students in this post B) the universities, newly minted incubators and support groups appear to be competing and disparate &#8211; there needs to be a cross-pollinating glue that informally binds their members and this may be as simple as a common watering hole where entrepreneurs make a conscious effort to hang out somewhere in mid-Cambridge and not on a campus or in an existing incubator, call it the space bar.</p>
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		<title>By: The Vision for Boston&#8217;s Zero Stage Community (and Free Workspace)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Vision for Boston&#8217;s Zero Stage Community (and Free Workspace)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] form for the free workspace I&#8217;ve been trumpeting.  For a discussion of the need, see &#8220;The Boston Entrepreneurial Ecosytem&#8217;s Problem and a Solution&#8220;, &#8220;&#8216;Notes from My BarCamp Talk: &#8216;Building the Boston Startup [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] form for the free workspace I&#8217;ve been trumpeting.  For a discussion of the need, see &#8220;The Boston Entrepreneurial Ecosytem&#8217;s Problem and a Solution&#8220;, &#8220;&#8216;Notes from My BarCamp Talk: &#8216;Building the Boston Startup [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Vogelsang</title>
		<link>http://kevinvogelsang.com/2010/03/bostons-entrepreneurial-ecosystems-problem-and-what-it-needs/comment-page-2/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Vogelsang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 06:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely.  Thanks for the comment.  I&#039;m excited to chat about this.  Let me know when you&#039;re free to talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely.  Thanks for the comment.  I&#39;m excited to chat about this.  Let me know when you&#39;re free to talk.</p>
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		<title>By: billwarner2</title>
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		<dc:creator>billwarner2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 03:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin - I agree that we need to do a zero-cost (or even LESS than zero-cost!) space for entrepreneurs. I have some ideas also, and would love to get together on this. We need one, or more than one of these type of spaces, so let&#039;s get to work. - Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin &#8211; I agree that we need to do a zero-cost (or even LESS than zero-cost!) space for entrepreneurs. I have some ideas also, and would love to get together on this. We need one, or more than one of these type of spaces, so let&#39;s get to work. &#8211; Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Vogelsang</title>
		<link>http://kevinvogelsang.com/2010/03/bostons-entrepreneurial-ecosystems-problem-and-what-it-needs/comment-page-2/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Vogelsang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Jeff.  The rabble rousing will indeed continue.  And will have to--there are problems to be solved! &lt;br&gt;Thanks for your leadership on these issues.  Let&#039;s keep it up.  We&#039;ll get to the necessary &quot;critical mass&quot; soon enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Jeff.  The rabble rousing will indeed continue.  And will have to&#8211;there are problems to be solved! <br />Thanks for your leadership on these issues.  Let&#39;s keep it up.  We&#39;ll get to the necessary &#8220;critical mass&#8221; soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: bussgang</title>
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		<dc:creator>bussgang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Kevin.  I am excited with the energy for entrepreneurship in Boston and have seen it grow meaningfully over the last few years (particularly on campus at Harvard, MIT, others). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with Jason&#039;s point out &quot;be loud&quot;.  I also do think the angel community is a huge gap.  For those of us who know angels, we need to find ways to pull them together and make them more visible.  That matchmaking is very difficult for young entrepreneurs who tend not to know the (typically older) angels through natural social circles.  We started StayinMA to assist with this natural networking for students at conferences and industry cofabs, but more can be done here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keep up the rabble rousing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Kevin.  I am excited with the energy for entrepreneurship in Boston and have seen it grow meaningfully over the last few years (particularly on campus at Harvard, MIT, others). </p>
<p>I agree with Jason&#39;s point out &#8220;be loud&#8221;.  I also do think the angel community is a huge gap.  For those of us who know angels, we need to find ways to pull them together and make them more visible.  That matchmaking is very difficult for young entrepreneurs who tend not to know the (typically older) angels through natural social circles.  We started StayinMA to assist with this natural networking for students at conferences and industry cofabs, but more can be done here.</p>
<p>Keep up the rabble rousing!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Vogelsang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Vogelsang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely happy about the DogPatch expansion.  But, DogPatch is a different animal--it&#039;s Polaris&#039;s Realm.  There are a different set of goals and incentives involved (none of which are bad or wrong).  &lt;br&gt;However, some entrepreneurs are wary of working in DogPatch for reasons I stated above (&quot;implicit strings&quot;).  Chris Dixon just tweeted exactly what I&#039;ve been wondering myself &quot;I would love to see VC seed programs/office space providers show % of startups they didn&#039;t fund that got funding elsewhere.&quot;  It sounds like Polaris is running DogPatch in the best way possible, but this &quot;wariness&quot; exists by default. &lt;br&gt;Investment in early stage startups is very much about &quot;gut feel&quot; and belief in team and product. Strange things affect this.  (Of course, since you&#039;re an investor, you have your own opinion on these things.  Although I&#039;d like to,  I won&#039;t push you to share here.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But let&#039;s put all this nonsense aside.  I want DogPatch to prosper.  It&#039;s a resource for entrepreneurs.  However, what I also want is something that better caters to new entrepreneurs and those with little resources at the time: even entrepreneurs that are still drawing diagrams on whiteboards and writing down ideas on napkins or just starting to find their way around the landscape.  What entrepreneurs need to do is plant a flag in the middle of Boston and say, &quot;we&#039;re here, we&#039;re badass, and we&#039;re doing it big.&quot;  People on the fringes will hear it and join in. Things still aren&#039;t loud enough, and what we need is to get to ***critical mass*** and have entrepreneurs bumping into entrepreneurs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And as you said, once there are some homerun hitters that invest back in the region, we&#039;ll be on our way.  But, it takes a lot of failures to get it right and it takes activation energy from the ecosystem to get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely happy about the DogPatch expansion.  But, DogPatch is a different animal&#8211;it&#39;s Polaris&#39;s Realm.  There are a different set of goals and incentives involved (none of which are bad or wrong).  <br />However, some entrepreneurs are wary of working in DogPatch for reasons I stated above (&#8220;implicit strings&#8221;).  Chris Dixon just tweeted exactly what I&#39;ve been wondering myself &#8220;I would love to see VC seed programs/office space providers show % of startups they didn&#39;t fund that got funding elsewhere.&#8221;  It sounds like Polaris is running DogPatch in the best way possible, but this &#8220;wariness&#8221; exists by default. <br />Investment in early stage startups is very much about &#8220;gut feel&#8221; and belief in team and product. Strange things affect this.  (Of course, since you&#39;re an investor, you have your own opinion on these things.  Although I&#39;d like to,  I won&#39;t push you to share here.)</p>
<p>But let&#39;s put all this nonsense aside.  I want DogPatch to prosper.  It&#39;s a resource for entrepreneurs.  However, what I also want is something that better caters to new entrepreneurs and those with little resources at the time: even entrepreneurs that are still drawing diagrams on whiteboards and writing down ideas on napkins or just starting to find their way around the landscape.  What entrepreneurs need to do is plant a flag in the middle of Boston and say, &#8220;we&#39;re here, we&#39;re badass, and we&#39;re doing it big.&#8221;  People on the fringes will hear it and join in. Things still aren&#39;t loud enough, and what we need is to get to ***critical mass*** and have entrepreneurs bumping into entrepreneurs.</p>
<p>And as you said, once there are some homerun hitters that invest back in the region, we&#39;ll be on our way.  But, it takes a lot of failures to get it right and it takes activation energy from the ecosystem to get there.</p>
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		<title>By: robchogo</title>
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		<dc:creator>robchogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 01:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, are you pleased to see that Dog Patch is increasing the space that  &lt;br&gt;is available?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with your uber-point though.  More collaboration that is  &lt;br&gt;consistent is better.  But it&#039;s often hard to fabricate this stuff,  &lt;br&gt;and each one of these initiatives do help, but don&#039;t go all the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, are you pleased to see that Dog Patch is increasing the space that  <br />is available?</p>
<p>I agree with your uber-point though.  More collaboration that is  <br />consistent is better.  But it&#39;s often hard to fabricate this stuff,  <br />and each one of these initiatives do help, but don&#39;t go all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Vogelsang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Vogelsang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 01:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These fail to solve the problems I&#039;m highlighting, especially for *founders* of new companies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1)  Events aren&#039;t designed for knowledge transfer.  They&#039;re best for meeting new people. Sure,  you&#039;ll pick up something new.  You can also follow up with someone and schedule a meeting (which are costly).  But there are 1000s of questions a new entrepreneur needs answered and will run into. Maybe a few things can be learned from a meeting.  The real learning comes from working around people that are very close to your current situation that you can turn to and say, &quot;how did you handle this?&quot;.  In Boston, you don&#039;t bump into someone in your daily routine and talk about founder issues.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s easy to forget the what it&#039;s really like to be completely new to something and know *nothing*.  Invaluable mentorship comes from your peers.&lt;br&gt;Here&#039;s another side to this that comes from a comment above by bsrubin, &quot;I am super-willing to mentor - but no one (except for a few Brown grads - my alma-mater) knows how to find me.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) These events aren&#039;t very helpful for getting new people into the &quot;entrepreneurial funnel.&quot;  They offer a chance for the current community to get together.  If you go to these events, you start seeing the same faces. (there are some events that are much better suited for getting new people into the entrepreneurial arena).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People are starting to realize there is real opportunity in Boston waiting to be tapped, but it&#039;s going to require investment in growing the community.  What I&#039;m proposing is a location/community that exists continually that specializes in the difficult transition process of going from a dorm room or job into the wild.  Boston&#039;s problem is that entrepreneurial people often don&#039;t make it into the funnel, or can&#039;t get through those very difficult initial steps that a &quot;zero stage&quot; entrepreneur goes through.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) In the day-to-day life of a zero-stage entrepreneur, events don&#039;t supply the moral support and energy that can make a huge difference.  Having a real working community can really help push things forward.  YC and TechStars display this and are the closest examples to what I&#039;m proposing, but in the Boston environment, we need something more persistent.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hmm, this comments has gotten longer than I&#039;d like, so I&#039;ll stop there.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does this illustrate why these forms of community building fail in certain areas?  &lt;br&gt;I think it&#039;s also important to remember that founding a company and working in a startup with some momentum are also very different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These fail to solve the problems I&#39;m highlighting, especially for *founders* of new companies.</p>
<p>1)  Events aren&#39;t designed for knowledge transfer.  They&#39;re best for meeting new people. Sure,  you&#39;ll pick up something new.  You can also follow up with someone and schedule a meeting (which are costly).  But there are 1000s of questions a new entrepreneur needs answered and will run into. Maybe a few things can be learned from a meeting.  The real learning comes from working around people that are very close to your current situation that you can turn to and say, &#8220;how did you handle this?&#8221;.  In Boston, you don&#39;t bump into someone in your daily routine and talk about founder issues.</p>
<p>It&#39;s easy to forget the what it&#39;s really like to be completely new to something and know *nothing*.  Invaluable mentorship comes from your peers.<br />Here&#39;s another side to this that comes from a comment above by bsrubin, &#8220;I am super-willing to mentor &#8211; but no one (except for a few Brown grads &#8211; my alma-mater) knows how to find me.&#8221;</p>
<p>2) These events aren&#39;t very helpful for getting new people into the &#8220;entrepreneurial funnel.&#8221;  They offer a chance for the current community to get together.  If you go to these events, you start seeing the same faces. (there are some events that are much better suited for getting new people into the entrepreneurial arena).</p>
<p>People are starting to realize there is real opportunity in Boston waiting to be tapped, but it&#39;s going to require investment in growing the community.  What I&#39;m proposing is a location/community that exists continually that specializes in the difficult transition process of going from a dorm room or job into the wild.  Boston&#39;s problem is that entrepreneurial people often don&#39;t make it into the funnel, or can&#39;t get through those very difficult initial steps that a &#8220;zero stage&#8221; entrepreneur goes through.    </p>
<p>3) In the day-to-day life of a zero-stage entrepreneur, events don&#39;t supply the moral support and energy that can make a huge difference.  Having a real working community can really help push things forward.  YC and TechStars display this and are the closest examples to what I&#39;m proposing, but in the Boston environment, we need something more persistent.  </p>
<p>Hmm, this comments has gotten longer than I&#39;d like, so I&#39;ll stop there.  </p>
<p>Does this illustrate why these forms of community building fail in certain areas?  <br />I think it&#39;s also important to remember that founding a company and working in a startup with some momentum are also very different.</p>
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		<title>By: robchogo</title>
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		<dc:creator>robchogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does POPSignal, dartboston, webinno, and momondays fail to achieve  &lt;br&gt;this?</description>
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